Leeds Bradford: New Route Development & Rumours

[White Heather]

Unable to read the full article. Guessing/hoping this was about Aurigny and no one else?

It is. It says the route is suspended for summer 2027 due to 'aircraft availability'.

 

[Finger66]

The usual bad press though. Expansion from LS and FR far outweighs GR going.

 

[White Heather]

The usual bad press though. Expansion from LS and FR far outweighs GR going.

Well the press survive on bad news and gloom and doom don't they? Why spoil a bad news story with news of 10 new routes between Jet2 annd Ryanair?

 

[lbaspotter]

So I wonder who will operate the now newly certified Boeing 737-MAX10 into LBA first. Ryanair or TUI?

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Well the press survive on bad news and gloom and doom don't they? Why spoil a bad news story with news of 10 new routes between Jet2 annd Ryanair?

You mean journalists actually be journalists. Anyway there's a pig that's just got airborne.

 

[Len Fish]

Aircraft unavailability is given as the reason for Aurigny pulling out of LBA but this would appear to be self imposed. They will operate their Summer 2027 services with five instead of six ATRs, with one aircraft being held in reserve to cover service issues, to improve reliability and cut costs associated with delays/cancellations. To do this something had to give, unfortunately their LBA. service.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Is it just LBA thats lost its aurigny service or one or two other airports as well?

 

[YorkshireLad]

So I wonder who will operate the now newly certified Boeing 737-MAX10 into LBA first. Ryanair or TUI?

At 128 (so far) flights per week as opposed to 4 flights per week I know where my money is. Most likely first visit will be Ryanair subbing an aircraft to Dublin, I can see future services to Alicante and Krakow in particular using non-based aircraft

 

[lbaspotter]

Is it just LBA thats lost its aurigny service or one or two other airports as well?

Not 100%, but I Think London City & Dublin have also been affected with frequency cut. I’m also guessing that the weekly Teesside charter has gone too.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

So I wonder who will operate the now newly certified Boeing 737-MAX10 into LBA first. Ryanair or TUI?

I doubt this airport will see the Max 10. Very restrictive in terms of length of fuselage and gear height. It would give me the eeebie jeebies seeing that get airborne at LBA. Or worse - landing on Runway 32 on a very windy day.

 

[Len Fish]

So I wonder who will operate the now newly certified Boeing 737-MAX10 into LBA first. Ryanair or TUI?

Always assuming it can operate out of LBA given its inferior short field performance compared with the other Max models due to its increased MTOW and a worse power to weight ratio.

I doubt this airport will see the Max 10. Very restrictive in terms of length of fuselage and gear height. It would give me the eeebie jeebies seeing that get airborne at LBA. Or worse - landing on Runway 32 on a very windy day.

Apparently it has a specially designed landing gear to overcome the increased likelihood of a tail strike due to the extra fuselage length.

 

[lbaspotter]

Well I for one suspect it’s very plausible a Ryanair Boeing 737-MAX10 will turn up within the next Year on the Dublin route, very short run over the Irish Sea. They plan to have 5x based over there next summer along with 7x at Stansted.

Interesting one to keep an eye on for sure.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Well I for one suspect it’s very plausible a Ryanair Boeing 737-MAX10 will turn up within the next Year on the Dublin route, very short run over the Irish Sea. They plan to have 5x based over there next summer along with 7x at Stansted.

Interesting one to keep an eye on for sure.

With only 5 I would imagine that the 5 will be deployed on dense routes where Ryanair can fill, without much lowering of fares. LBA I don’t suspect is high on the list.

 

[White Heather]

With only 5 I would imagine that the 5 will be deployed on dense routes where Ryanair can fill, without much lowering of fares. LBA I don’t suspect is high on the list.

That could apply to LBA too. Last weekend we had 3 Ryanair Dublin flights within a few hours in one morning. The demand must be there.
However, I would think any MAX10 at LBA would be a rarity. The MAX8 is fine.

 

[YorkshireLad]

That could apply to LBA too. Last weekend we had 3 Ryanair Dublin flights within a few hours in one morning. The demand must be there.
However, I would think any MAX10 at LBA would be a rarity. The MAX8 is fine.

On a weekend the flights fill effortlessly, on a midweek day absolutely not. However I believe the yield will be too low for them to regularly bother except for substitutions which is how we got our first MAX 8 visits in 2021/2022

 

[BCFC]

I doubt this airport will see the Max 10. Very restrictive in terms of length of fuselage and gear height. It would give me the eeebie jeebies seeing that get airborne at LBA. Or worse - landing on Runway 32 on a very windy day.

Does that mean we will eventually lose Ryanair then as their whole fleet will become MAX 10’s over time.

 

[Vzg94w]

Does that mean we will eventually lose Ryanair then as their whole fleet will become MAX 10’s over time.

There will be no issue with a Max10 in LBA. Only 15 deliveries next year and then ramped up. Initially, unlikely to see one for that reason

 

[Snackbar]

Does that mean we will eventually lose Ryanair then as their whole fleet will become MAX 10’s over time.

Ryanair would have a major issue if that was the case as there are a number of routes across the Mediterranean especially Greece which have far more restrictive runways then LBA and add in the summer heat they’d be pulling a significant number of routes all over the place……

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Does that mean we will eventually lose Ryanair then as their whole fleet will become MAX 10’s over time.

It won’t become solely Max10’s. It’s going to be mixed between Max8200 and Max10. Plus 290 737-800 remain in 2034. (q1 2027 financial presentation).

By that point Boeing will have developed a new narrow-body. Or Airbus will have. Or both. Which … Ryanair will hold orders for.

 

[Aviador]

So I wonder who will operate the now newly certified Boeing 737-MAX10 into LBA first. Ryanair or TUI?

The 737 Max 10 cannot operate into LBA.