Lufthansa

[Severn]

Tomorrow sees the first day that Lufthansa operates 2x daily flights since the route to FRA started (both flight using the E190).
This will continue through the summer with the schedule as my previous post.
Departure times from BRS will at 09:40 and 17:45.

 

[Marko1]

Lufthansa has removed from sale its Frankfurt service for next summer. I thought this route was doing well ?

 

[andrewgreen]

I was on it, just had an email informing me it’s cancelled ! Only option seems to be a refund !

 

[Severn]

Really surprised to hear this

 

[Marko1]

I’m not sure what Bristol can be doing wrong with Frankfurt - British airways , bmi regional and lufthansa twice and it never stays - many months over 6k passengers per month at 10 weekly. It leaves just Amsterdam as a connecting point of any use and I can’t see Swiss staying much longer now that its parent is leaving. Real shock - I was expecting it to increase in frequency and get Munich back as well.

 

[Kernow Bravo]

Apparently the Liverpool-FRA flights are also being culled.

This could simply be a reflection of LH's hub strategy, for which there may be several drivers:

* SAS is almost certainly leaving *A and joining Skyteam next year, so LH group may be looking to reinforce its nordic market presence, and needs the capacity to do so.
* LH is also planning to acquire a major stake in ITA and will probably route more traffic from Italy through its hubs as a result
* It has been announced that the Schengen EES will start on 6/10/24 and with all those additional biometrics to collect/verify, FRA may need to scale back the extra-schengen short haul network, at least initially.

As others have suggested, there appears to be a market for *A connecting traffic ex BRS (I myself have used LH/LX on two trips this year). AMS seems to be having capacity/environmental issues, so If LH also see it that way, they may replace FRA with a different hub used by an airline from the group i.e. BRU, VIE, MUC or extra flights to ZRH.

There seems to be a lot of optimism amongst airlines at the moment (or a lot of spare cash!), with Turkish and Easy Jet announcing huge orders for new aircraft. I find it hard to believe that LH group would deliberately want to be left behind.

 

[MrFenner]

There seems to be a lot of optimism amongst airlines at the moment (or a lot of spare cash!), with Turkish and Easy Jet announcing huge orders for new aircraft. I find it hard to believe that LH group would deliberately want to be left behind.

Am thinking LH are definitely not being left behind…

Lufthansa orders 80 planes from Boeing and Airbus for $9 bln

 

[Silvercity]

Apparently the Liverpool-FRA flights are also being culled.

This could simply be a reflection of LH's hub strategy, for which there may be several drivers:

* SAS is almost certainly leaving *A and joining Skyteam next year, so LH group may be looking to reinforce its nordic market presence, and needs the capacity to do so.
* LH is also planning to acquire a major stake in ITA and will probably route more traffic from Italy through its hubs as a result
* It has been announced that the Schengen EES will start on 6/10/24 and with all those additional biometrics to collect/verify, FRA may need to scale back the extra-schengen short haul network, at least initially.

As others have suggested, there appears to be a market for *A connecting traffic ex BRS (I myself have used LH/LX on two trips this year). AMS seems to be having capacity/environmental issues, so If LH also see it that way, they may replace FRA with a different hub used by an airline from the group i.e. BRU, VIE, MUC or extra flights to ZRH.

There seems to be a lot of optimism amongst airlines at the moment (or a lot of spare cash!), with Turkish and Easy Jet announcing huge orders for new aircraft. I find it hard to believe that LH group would deliberately want to be left behind.

My contact at Liverpool Airport has been really shocked by the move as the route was doing well, Lufthansa told them so much. They had only recently decided upon a joint marketing strategy for the summer . The blame is being put on the CRJs , or lack of them this summer. They say the route is on hold, until the situation improves, however I dont think that can be relied upon. Bristol fortunately is on a better position than Liverpool, Lufthansa be the only hub airline.

 

[Brum X]

🙁

 

[juliet-fox-9]

If it’s a shortage of aircraft, as is being reported on the Liverpool thread, then it’ll be to do with A320neo engine problems. Lufthansa are among the airlines affected. The E190s will be covering flights that used to be on A320s. I’m optimistic that the routes will be reinstated when the engine issues are sorted.