Leeds Bradford: New Route Development & Rumours

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The 737 Max 10 cannot operate into LBA.

I disagree, Here’s what ChatGPT has to say regards Ryanair’s Boeing 737-MAX10 on the LBA-DUB route.

In principle, a Ryanair Boeing 737 MAX 10 could operate from Leeds Bradford Airport (LBA) to Dublin Airport (DUB) safely, provided the aircraft is certified for service and the specific flight meets all the airport, runway, weather and performance requirements.

The Leeds–Dublin route is relatively short, so the aircraft would not need anything like its maximum range. The main question is whether the MAX 10 could take off from Leeds Bradford's runway with its passengers, baggage and fuel load under the conditions on the day.

There is one important distinction: being technically capable of operating the route is not the same as confirming that it could operate every departure at maximum weight.

Why Leeds Bradford is the key factor

Boeing 737 MAX 10
Length: 43.8 m
Maximum seating: up to 230 passengers
Maximum take-off weight: about 89.8 tonnes
Range: approximately 3,100 nautical miles

Source: Boeing technical specifications.

Leeds Bradford Airport
The airport has a runway approximately 2,250 metres long. Its elevation, gradients and local weather conditions make take-off performance particularly important.

The MAX 10 is larger and heavier than the 737-800 that Ryanair commonly operates. Boeing's own runway-performance charts show that the runway length required depends on aircraft weight, temperature, wind and runway conditions.

Would it manage the flight?

My verdict: I would expect the Leeds–Dublin route to be a plausible mission for a Ryanair 737 MAX 10, but I would not claim it could depart Leeds with all 230 passengers and full fuel in every condition without a detailed aircraft performance calculation.
 
Now do some risk assessment analysis regarding the Max 10 and tail strikes on an undulating runway. There will be a decent amount of airports that are off limits for this aircraft.

Well if that’s case we can wave goodbye to the Ryanair base and it’s operations once all the Boeing 737-800’s & Boeing 737-MAX8’s are replaced by Boeing 737-MAX10’s
 
Now do some risk assessment analysis regarding the Max 10 and tail strikes on an undulating runway. There will be a decent amount of airports that are off limits for this aircraft.
An undulating runway is not a factor for increased tailstrike risk (I'm aware AI will tell you that it is, but if you check any of the sources it uses manually you won't find any refence to it). The change in the ground profile is relatively small and only looks pronounced through telephoto lenses or if viewed close to ground level.

Undulating runways do increase the risks of hard landings (up slopes) or long landings (down slopes). However, the 737 is limited to runway slope gradients +/-2%. I don't believe even the steepest sections of the LBA runway are over 1% so it really isn't a factor. The -10 has a different landing gear designed to keep tail clearance broadly similar to the other variants too.
 
Well if that’s case we can wave goodbye to the Ryanair base and it’s operations once all the Boeing 737-800’s & Boeing 737-MAX8’s are replaced by Boeing 737-MAX10’s
I dont think Ryanair have any intention of becoming entirely a MAX10 airline. More likely a mix of MAX8200 and 10 eventually.
 
Lets bare in mind that ryanair mainly operate into smaller airports with generally shorter runways that are away from the big airports (with some exceptions ie MAN) so if the max10 was going to be an issue for ryanair at these airports they would im sure have a mix of max8s(8200) and 10s
Once again though it does raise my point about the touch down zones esp on R32 been positioned on the highest section of runway before going into the slight downslope although in my opinion i dont think this would affect max10 ops, i think its more the runway length and range that would be the biggest problem.
 
The Max 8 and 10 are not in competition with each other but are complimentary. The former is the go anywhere (even transatlantic) variant the latter the high density, shorter range version which may not be able to operate from some of the airports the Max 8 currently serves. It makes sense then that Ryanair will fly both variants alongside each other, horses for courses as they say.
 

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