New Arrivals Terminal For LBA

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Plans revealed for new state of the art terminal extension Leeds Bradford Airport is delighted to announce the next phase of its redevelopment plan. The region’s biggest airport is planning a multi-million pound, three-storey extension to its terminal building, that once complete, will house a transformed international arrivals process, including immigration, baggage reclaim and customs. The extension will also accommodate new, larger departure gates, seating areas and new retail and food & beverage outlets. Once the new building is completed – scheduled for the end of 2019 - works will then commence on re-modelling the existing terminal building to provide a new security central search area, enhanced check-in facilities, and a simplification of the customer journey through the existing departure lounge, which will also include new retail and F&B offers. We expect these works to be complete for summer 2020. The final phase will include the construction of a new pier, replacing the current passenger walkway with a twostorey structure, housing arrivals and ground level, and departures being processed at additional new boarding gates on the first floor. As part of its redevelopment plans, the airport is inviting the people of Yorkshire to contribute to the future development of their airport. In addition to a three-week consultation period, airport officials will be hosting a dropin event at the Britannia Hotel in Bramhope on Thursday 27th September and the proposals will now go through Leeds City Council’s planning process. David Laws, Chief Executive at Leeds Bradford Airport, said: “These really are exciting times for this airport and we are delighted to be able to now share our plans for phase two of our terminal redevelopment. “This new extension will transform the experience for both departing and arriving passengers whilst also adding a ‘sense of place and pride’ throughout the terminal, as we want to play our part in creating a great first impression for inbound visitors. “A thriving region needs a thriving airport and we hope the people of our great county will see these latest plans as a real statement of intent as we continue to strive to create an airport Yorkshire can be proud of. “Work continues to improve our route offering for both business and leisure services and we hope to have more exciting announcements in the near future as we look to open up Yorkshire to new global opportunities.” Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe, Chair of West Yorkshire Combined Authority, said: “The airport is already a major contributor to the city region economy and we welcome this significant new investment. “It will enhance the experience for existing and new passengers as new routes are introduced. In turn, these will open up additional markets for local businesses.” Issued: 14 PRESS RELEASE th September 2018 Sir Gary Verity DL, Chief Executive of Welcome to Yorkshire, said: “This is fantastic news for Yorkshire, bringing great benefits to both leisure and business travellers as well as the wider economy. David Laws and his team are to be applauded for the positive changes they are bringing to Leeds Bradford Airport. These latest plans are symptomatic of the scale of their vision and overall ambition to make the airport one the whole county can be proud of. Passengers will soon experience an airport truly fit for the 21st century.” Leader of Leeds City Council Councillor Judith Blake, said: “We very much welcome these plans for a terminal extension and improved facilities at Leeds Bradford Airport, and we look forward to seeing them come forward for full consideration by Leeds City Council’s plans panel. The airport is a key element of the Leeds and wider regional economy, and we are fully committed to supporting its growth.” Henri Murison, Director of Northern Powerhouse Partnership, said: “The Northern Powerhouse future relies on connectivity, whether it be in transport terms to key European export markets by flight to digital connectivity. This investment by Leeds Bradford Airport here in Yorkshire is a sign of their confidence and commitment to helping businesses here to grow and attracting inward investment. “At the same time, we see commitment from city leaders and the combined authority to improve the journey to the airport with a link planned on the Leeds to Harrogate rail line. This is why the airport will keep growing the number of destinations available to business and leisure travellers – transformed facilities and lounges already, more capacity and more choice on how to get here from across the region.”

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OK so here's what I have come up with, and with exactly the same floor space.

So from the point of entry into the arrivals area passengers can see all the carousels, they can see the exit and they can walk in a straight line without the need to go around corners with luggage and trolleys. Passengers arriving through immigration will no longer cross close by the path of passengers leaving the arrivals facility through the alternative customs area. There's no requirement for passengers to go back on themselves.

Being Devils Advocate here I'm afraid Aviador. With the blank canvas they had why didn't they adopt the scheme you are suggesting here as it seems simple and logical? Thoughts please.
 
I am not experienced at Terminal layout planning but Aviador's suggestion does show a better "flow" through arrivals.
 
Being Devils Advocate here I'm afraid Aviador. With the blank canvas they had why didn't they adopt the scheme you are suggesting here as it seems simple and logical? Thoughts please.

Placing Immigration and Customs close together can have advantages as might allow staff to be pooled but Border Control is not the responsibility of LBA and the terminal flow of passengers should be prioritised. I'm not saying this is the reason why they have planned the way they have because I genuinely don't know but despite this it still makes more sense to completely separate immigration and customs facilities. If you look at the airports plan as they stand, it shows entering and exiting routes near the same point which will create an unnecessary bottleneck.

The LBA version is shown in post #55 https://forums4airports.com/threads/4711/page-3#post-153568
 
People can agree and disagree, but what ever LBA decide to do you'll always find somebody that will complain.

It's what's called, "a never win situation".
 
People can agree and disagree, but what ever LBA decide to do you'll always find somebody that will complain.

It's what's called, "a never win situation".

Whilst that is true @lbaspotter I am a supporter of the airport not anti airport. Most if not all of the users of this forum support the airport. What I learnt in my days at LBA is the management often forge ahead with plans without thinking them through properly. Each time we are told "the management knows best" and each time they encounter failings.

During the days when the airport was under council ownership they spent many thousands of pounds on laying a block paving walkway down to where CSZ now is, everybody that worked in the terminal warned them it wouldn't work but they didn't listen. Only days after opening it they then realised that baggage trolleys were getting stuck in between the blocks and so they had to pay more money on resurfacing it.

The council ownership made other mess-ups, one was with the arrivals extension when they added the stair casing at the bookend of the terminal. This made it impossible to extend the terminal further without building around it which is why B Hall is so disjointed from the rest of the terminal.

We shouldn't just blame the council for the mess the terminal is in, Bridgepoint made some strategic errors in their planning hence why we don't have the infill now. I could foresee numerous problems with those plans but the initial renders looked good and so appeased my original concerns.

The new owners have done the right thing in way of future proofing the terminal as the new location for the arrivals facility will allow for a new terminal to be built around it. Passenger flow is cosmetic in many respects but this is what annoys me the most about the plans as I genuinely believe it is ill thought out, but the plans can be altered easily at this stage through the planning amendment process.

I believe the areas of concern are fair points to raise, having a smooth flow of passengers will allow continuity. If you are completely happy with what is proposed then happy days.
 
Straight forward planning is harder then in seems. In the 70's I used to run courses on computer programming and the set initial programme was to construct a programme for getting out of bed and leaving the front door, no food just the dressing side. It was amazing what clothes folk forgot to include or the order they did it in, or walked through the door without opening it.
Fewer then 5% would get all stages right.
It was the same at the induction course, "How many uses for a paper clip" was one basic question, if you did not have a hundred uses at least in 15 minutes, you failed at this point. You have to be able to think of all possible outcomes.
 
Leeds Planning site has some new updated plans for this project, filed on the site yesterday.

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Visually I'm happy with the proposals. I'm just hoping they revisit the internal aspects of the development.
 
I tend to agree @mode1 It seems an awful waste to spend money building an extension to only use half of it. It's not like the terminal is quiet, especially through the summer months. Even if the area was just floored with seating, it would provide additional space for when delays occur.
 
The footprint of the building has also been reduced by 2m in width along the full length of the building.
 
I tend to agree @mode1 It seems an awful waste to spend money building an extension to only use half of it. It's not like the terminal is quiet, especially through the summer months. Even if the area was just floored with seating, it would provide additional space for when delays occur.
You pay rates on the floor area in use, when we built our last warehouse extension, we blocked off half the area, not needed urgently, to save a huge amount of rates. The same with the new office block, we roped of areas unlikley to be used in the next 3 years.
If we had built in two stages would have cost nearly 50% more, so better to build at currant costs and block off, saving rates, but knowing we had the future growth catered for.
People complaining not enough stands, yet now being sensible and building terminal space for the future, very cost effective.
 
It's not clear but presumably if this new departures area is being built for wide body aircraft (? ) then they'll need to be able to add airbridges in future?
 
You pay rates on the floor area in use, when we built our last warehouse extension, we blocked off half the area, not needed urgently, to save a huge amount of rates. The same with the new office block, we roped of areas unlikley to be used in the next 3 years.
If we had built in two stages would have cost nearly 50% more, so better to build at currant costs and block off, saving rates, but knowing we had the future growth catered for.
People complaining not enough stands, yet now being sensible and building terminal space for the future, very cost effective.

It won't be anything to do with that. They move the exit so no meet and greet required.
 
It's not clear but presumably if this new departures area is being built for wide body aircraft (? ) then they'll need to be able to add airbridges in future?
The new terminal will have additional departure areas on the first floor, with holding areas for passengers that are of sufficient size to cope with wide body aircraft - something LBA management know they are unable to cope with at the moment when either departing or arriving. So yes, the new terminal will provide the facilities to cope with a wide body aircraft and its passengers at both ends of the journey.
As for airbridges - this has been discussed a few times on here and at the Consultative Committee. There are no current plans to add any more, because the majority of airlines operating from LBA don't particularly want to use them (they apparently slow up the loading and unloading process due to only being able to use the front aircraft door). Also, they don't want to pay to use them either. Based on limited demand, LBA consider that having two (when they are refurbished and working) is currently sufficient, but they have confirmed that the design of the new terminal will allow the addition of further airbridges in future if new airline partners needs suggest more are needed.
 
Hopefully the bridges on stands 7 and 8 will be recommissioned very soon, if it hasn't already happened on my days off. Apparently, no.7 was being 'trialled' on Monday so we shouldn't be far off.
 
It is nice to know that the new terminal will be suitable for "passengers that are of sufficient size to cope with wide body aircraft".
Sorry White Heather and thanks for your fine explanation, we look forward to seeing it being used. As for airbridges - if the airport can attract the likes of Lufthansa, etc they may well be happy to use airbridges, business customers are used to these.
 
It is nice to know that the new terminal will be suitable for "passengers that are of sufficient size to cope with wide body aircraft".
Sorry White Heather and thanks for your fine explanation, we look forward to seeing it being used. As for airbridges - if the airport can attract the likes of Lufthansa, etc they may well be happy to use airbridges, business customers are used to these.
Ha ha, one little comma missing and it changes the meaning doesn't it? I would correct it but for some reason the edit button isn't there, so I can't.
🙂
 
Yeah you'd assume wide body operators would want airbridges? Also surely vastly improves load times for such large aircraft?
 
Yeah you'd assume wide body operators would want airbridges? Also surely vastly improves load times for such large aircraft?
It depends on the airline and whether the stand is a remote one and the passengers need to be bussed. At BRS TUI seem quite happy using steps while at CWL for Qatar an airbridge is almost expected.
 

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