A 'spanner' in the works for votes?? 🤣What on Earth...?
Reform government would try to acquire Doncaster Sheffield Airport land with CPO
This appears to mark a change in policy for Reform UK, as in Barnsley Nigel Farage told reporters he wanted a “private sector solution” for DSA.www.yorkshirepost.co.uk
Tice has just blown it.
Apart from the internal incoherence of Reform's policy, the mayor's opponents are causing massive cognitive dissonance with this, "we support reopening DSA, but..." nonsense. They might oppose that crackpot lease, but ultimately they're accepting Jones's premise that Doncaster needs an airport, that it virtually guarantees an economic miracle, and that the only question is how it's paid for. It's lunacy! They're on about spending a few hundred million pounds on a completely superfluous airport in a saturated local market. It's nothing more than an incinerator for taxpayer's money.
Let them, if they can find the private sector investor willing to take the risk then let them crack on. No issue with that, I doubt they’ll find anyone particularly in this period of uncertainty but you can’t say fairer than that if someone wants to take it on. It should not and must not be the tax payer though, certainly not the Doncaster tax payer alone who takes all the risk. Doesn’t matter what Chadwick says, the information he is putting out there is false. As Gainshare hasn’t been approved, and as it appears to be in a deadlock, the money is secured by the council and by nature of that the council tax paying public of Doncaster. Some may think it’s a price worth paying, but if the council end up having to cut services. Or worse end up bankrupt, you’d see support for it turn into strong opposition pretty swiftly.
Yes, but unless I'm putting 2 and 2 together and making 5, Tice's plan appears to be to use public funds to forcibly take the site from Peel via a CPO. In order to found an airport that is still totally surplus to requirements. It's a bit like Jones's plan only even slower, even more expensive, even more unrealistic, and even more inane. All it does is take Jones's mad lease agreement out of the equation and raise the highly theoretical possibility that the site could be sold to a private buyer. (Let's pause to reflect on the fact that it is already privately owned!)
I’d suggest let him believe that’s possible 😉 we don’t know how peel would react if there was a credible offer to purchase the site using CPO as the bargaining chip. We do know Peel are open to selling so long as it’s a price they feel respects the investment they already made into the site. Teesside is an example of this. A CPO is probably null and void in the current situation because of the active lease, but if Regurge think they can get private investors to the table with Peel then let them knock themselves out.
Well, yes. Everything's for sale for enough money!
I wouldn’t be too sure. Jason Charity had Chadwick and the reopening project bang to rights, he has commented that he’s seen the business plan and stated that he could tell within a couple of pages that it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Quite clearly the problem is that the private sector aren’t interested, the council therefore need to be investor of last resort. The private sector will have looked at it, completed their own due diligence and decided that because it failed to gain traction before in spite of heavy private subsidies it’s not a viable investment. But we’ve covered this previously accepting you’re a new member - welcome by the way!
Hopefully none, given their brazen and desperate nature.
I’m not sure, but I suspect there’ll be some contingency plan. Pulling the £57million would certainly provide at least a headache, I suspect their orders for equipment are contingent on securing this money along side their plans to ramp up recruitment to 200 people by the end of the year. As has been mentioned previously they do also appear to have another £30 million to play with.
www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk
That's hilarious! 🤣Meanwhile looks like the rally took place today. If the photo in the below article is representative then turnout wasn’t exactly strong.
Rally held at Doncaster Sheffield Airport to support re-opening
A rally has been held to support the re-opening of Doncaster Sheffield Airport
www.bbc.co.uk
A question were all eagerly awaiting answers to. The conspiracy theory is Peel designed it to never be a success and/or priced airlines out so they could get the road links in place and close it to build houses or warehouses on it. Conveniently for people who subscribe to such belief (which includes sons former workers who really should know better) the details of the agreements they had with airlines were and still are not freely available to the public. So you get people who think the published fees are the charges the airlines with contracts paid. This is so far wide of the mark it’s frustrating at times that you can’t provide the evidence that proves this is nonsense.That's hilarious! 🤣
If there really is no mechanism to stop this craziness then there's something badly wrong with the system.
Doncaster Sheffield Airport could be 'massive drain' on taxpayers - Farage
Reform UK wants to reverse a £57m council loan to reopen Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
At it again. "We want to save this airport but [...]"
Why? It'll be a massive drain on taxpayers because it isn't commercially viable. Or anywhere near it. Acquiring the freehold won't magically generate passenger demand, won't conjure up willing airlines out of thin air, and it certainly won't fix the fundamental geographical problem of being boxed in by Manchester, East Midlands, and Leeds Bradford!
Right up until 2022, Peel owned the freehold, and it remains in private sector hands. They owned the runway, the terminal, the car parks, the lot. And they shut it. Because it was losing money hand over fist, and obviously wasn't going to stop losing money. Because there is no demand. Now the situation is even worse because nearby airports have eaten DSA's lunch - they've hoovered up what business there was.
I don't understand why simply changing ownership of the freehold magically makes the airport viable. Can someone explain this to me? It was run by the freehold owner for years and got precisely nowhere, and under far more favourable conditions than now.
You are saying what I have said so many times, AND what people I know in the industry are saying.That's hilarious! 🤣
If there really is no mechanism to stop this craziness then there's something badly wrong with the system.
Doncaster Sheffield Airport could be 'massive drain' on taxpayers - Farage
Reform UK wants to reverse a £57m council loan to reopen Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
At it again. "We want to save this airport but [...]"
Why? It'll be a massive drain on taxpayers because it isn't commercially viable. Or anywhere near it. Acquiring the freehold won't magically generate passenger demand, won't conjure up willing airlines out of thin air, and it certainly won't fix the fundamental geographical problem of being boxed in by Manchester, East Midlands, and Leeds Bradford!
Right up until 2022, Peel owned the freehold, and it remains in private sector hands. They owned the runway, the terminal, the car parks, the lot. And they shut it. Because it was losing money hand over fist, and obviously wasn't going to stop losing money. Because there is no demand. Now the situation is even worse because nearby airports have eaten DSA's lunch - they've hoovered up what business there was.
I don't understand why simply changing ownership of the freehold magically makes the airport viable. Can someone explain this to me? It was run by the freehold owner for years and got precisely nowhere, and under far more favourable conditions than now.
Perhaps 20 of them are the GALBA folk protesting about LBA who seem to favour DSA instead. Easily identifiable by the teddy bears they carry around.
Obviously I don't know this for a fact but I'm sure everyone involved knows perfectly well DSA2 is already dead. It's just a gravy train isn't it. The people receiving the money want to carry on receiving the money for as long as possible. Although something's afoot isn't it - that business with Damian Allen threatening Jason Charity is fishy as...
They’ll never directly admit it’s not viable, it’s not politically popular to do so. However what they are clearly saying is that if the private sector won’t invest then it’s not viable. I think Chadwick is seeing the writing on the wall too, as even if it did move on to a different operating model and by some chance it does get a private sector investor he’d be sidelined straight off the bat. It appears more to be about his own ambition for it than the truth of it. This is obviously problematic.
I wouldn’t like to use the ‘C’ word (no, not that one!) but there’s something a little off about an unelected Chief Executive trying to silence the person who’s job it is to oversee and scrutinise his position by instructing personal solicitors to consider legal action for ‘defamation’.
I find that all very odd. I don't know what he was thinking but Allen has made himself look like the puppy sitting next to a pile of poo. Surely he knows that so obviously he's calculated that that is still better than whatever Charity would otherwise reveal.
Agree completely, but it’s politics. Theres no way the loan would have been approved in November had politics got played the deciding factor in it. Guy Aston was instructed by Tice to whip all councillors into voting in favour, he was then met with a torrent of ‘abuse’ and stood down. They know the local Tory lot don’t support it in its current guise, they probably know it’s a failed experiment before it even gets off the ground, but they have to protect their political standing.
